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Usenet Mac Digest     Friday, March 20, 1987         Volume 3 : Issue 22

Today's Topics:
     Re: mathematical word processing on the mac
     Overseas Mac
     serial hard disk problem
     Suggestions for Mac Fans (not people :-) Wanted
     Re: mathematical word processing on the mac
     System Heap expansion
     How the keyboard maps to the font?
     MS Word 3.0 problems
     Re: Suggestions for Mac Fans (not people :-) Wanted
     Mac SE - compatibility
     Obscure cursor bug
     Mac Printronix driver?
     Map programs?
     WORD 3.0 draft printing
     SE Incompatibilities...
     PacTel now an Apple Dealer
     Re: mathematical word processing on the mac
     Word 3.0 formulas on a Lisa?
     fonds and fonts
     Re: PacTel now an Apple Dealer
     Macintosh II Stuff
     Omnis3 templates
     Re: How the keyboard maps to the font?
     Re: Mac II (really SE: A letdown?)
     Falcon Flight Simulation for Mac
     Graf3D Queries...
     Networking and A/UX
     Re: X windows for Mac?
     Re: How the keyboard maps to the font?

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From: [e-mail] (Bob Heiney)
Subject: Re: mathematical word processing on the mac
Date: 13 Mar 87 19:46:41 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley

          Microsoft Word 3.0 can do everything you ask except changing the fonts
selectively (at least I don't think it can).  While the math language is
not exactly WYSIWYG, it is fairly powerful.  For example, the fraction
(x+y+5)/(x-y-9) could be typeset nicely with '.\F(x+y+5,x-y-9)'  The
'.\' is actually <command><option><`\`>.  You see the above notation
when the show paragraphs options is on, and when it is off you see the
formula proper.

          You can do integrals.  For example, the integral from a to b of f(x) is
'.\I(a,b,f(x))'.  You can nest formatting commands.  E.g. the integral
from a to b of c/d would be '.\I(a,b,.\F(c/d))'.  Word 3.0 also does
matrices (any kind of brackets you want, including different right and
left if you desire!), summations, and you can overprint any character.

          I have tried to do math WYSIWYG, and somehow all of that font changing
is so inconvenient that it is worth using notation like Word 3.0's to
save time (at least til someone comes up with something really new and
innovative). Also, unlike TEX, you CAN look at the nice versions of your
formulas while you are editing.

          My experience in math typesetting only covers MS Word 3.0, so there
might be other, better programs out there.  I do, however, recommend
Word for consideration.

                                                  -- Bob Heiney
                                                     [e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Robert Dorsett)
Subject: Overseas Mac
Date: 14 Mar 87 23:54:25 GMT
Organization: UTexas Computation Center, Austin, Texas

I will be travelling to Jordan next week for a two month stay.  I plan
on taking my Mac 512 along, but was recently told that there are
problems with the US power supply (burn-outs), requiring a $900
replacement of the analog board  (local prices).  My prior experience in
Jordan, with an Apple II Plus, which had a convertable 220/110 power
supply, tended to indicate that power wasn't such a big problem.  Then,
as now, the official Apple line is that there's a rather large tolerance
for cycle and voltage variation (+- 40 volts).  Has anyone any
experience using US macs in a 240v/50hz environment, particularly in
Amman?

Please send email; I will acknowledge replies if messages are received.



--
Robert Dorsett                          ARPA: [e-mail]
The University of Texas at Austin       UUCP: {ihnp4,seismo,sally}!ngp!mentat
                                                  UTAustin: [e-mail]

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From: [e-mail] (Henry Kautz)
Subject: serial hard disk problem
Date: 14 Mar 87 19:46:42 GMT
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Murray Hill

One final plea for help.  I have a
couple of old davong (serial) hard disks, and Mac512e, recently upgraded
from plain 512.  The disks ran fine under the old (4.2) system and
finder.  So I boot with the newer system (5.3 finder, etc), and try
creating a new volume.  Fine:  its hierarchical.  Everything works --
except now the volume manager crashes (error id=02) when it is run.  Try
the same thing on the other disk, and can't even get as far as creating
the volume, the volume manager just crashes.  C'mon, is there any cure,
any magic incantation?  Somebody out there must still be using
serial-port disks. Please mail me some advice!

--
---- Henry Kautz
          :uucp:    allegra!kautz
          :mail:  AT&T Bell Laboratories
                    Room 3C-433
                    600 Mountain Ave.
                    Murray Hill, N.J. 07974
          :office phone: [phone]
          :home address:
                    155 Woodland Ave.
                    Summit, N.J. 07901
          :home phone: [phone]


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From: cl1x#@andrew.cmu.edu (Chin-Yo Kenny Lin)
Subject: Suggestions for Mac Fans (not people :-) Wanted
Date: 15 Mar 87 04:49:09 GMT
Organization: Carnegie-Mellon University

Soon, I should hope to have my own psudo-Mac+ w/ 1 meg RAM and a
drive/ROM upgrade.  Since this will undoubtedly generate A LOT of heat,
I am shopping for a mac fan.  I've heard about piezo-electric fans, but
have little or no idea on how they work in principle and how well they
work in practice. Anyway, please send all suggestions and horror stories
(hopefully very few) to me and I shall post the results.  Please include
specifications i.e. how much air the fans move, special features like
surge suppressants, etc. when sending suggestions.  Thanks.

Kenny Lin

Bitnet:  [e-mail], [e-mail]
ARPA:  [e-mail], [e-mail]

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From: [e-mail] (Marc Sarrel)
Subject: Re: mathematical word processing on the mac
Date: 15 Mar 87 02:54:37 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University, CIS Dept.

Does anybody have any experience with MacEqn?  It's a desk accessory and
sells  for about $50.  I've perused the manual in the local computer
store, but nothing more.

Just thought I'd ask...
--
Marc Sarrel
CIS Gradual Student                     611 Harley Dr. #1
The Ohio State University               Columbus, OH  43202
..!osu-eddie!sarrel or [e-mail]

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From: [e-mail] (David Fry)
Subject: System Heap expansion
Date: 15 Mar 87 06:48:28 GMT
Organization: Harvard Math Department

I seem to have been out of the room every time this was discussed for
the last two years.  Could someone please mail me short instructions on
using a disk editor to expand my system heap under System 4.0?

Thanks in advance.

David Fry                               [e-mail]
Department of Mathematics               [e-mail]
Harvard University                      [e-mail]
Cambridge, MA  02138                              ...!harvard!huma1!fry

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: How the keyboard maps to the font?
Date: 14 Mar 87 20:42:00 GMT

   I have a question as to how the keyboard maps to the font on MacPlus.
For example, if Option-e is followed by one of a,E,e,i,o,u,or Option-e,
the two key strokes will be mapped into one 8-bit character. Option-e
followed by E will be mapped to 83 (hexadecimal). I wonder what will
happen if Option-e is not followed by one of the above ones.

   Similar comment applies to Option-i, -n, -u, -`.

   Does anybody out there know it?

   Thanks in advance.  Please reply via e-mail.  I will post a summary
if there is interest.

Kyongsok KIM
Department of Computer Science; University of llinois at Urbana-Champaign
arpanet   [e-mail]
csnet [e-mail]
usenet/uucp {seismo, pur-ee, ihnp4, convex, cmcl2}!uiucdcs!kkim

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From: [e-mail] (Radford Neal)
Subject: MS Word 3.0 problems
Date: 15 Mar 87 21:50:03 GMT
Organization: U. of Calgary, Calgary, Ab.

Adding a bit to the chorus of cries about MS Word 3.0 - What do they
think they're doing with printing?

It appears that there is no way to print in high-quality mode on an
Imagewriter. The buttons just aren't there in the print dialog box.

Now, I have to sympathize. As some of you may realize, high-quality
printing on the Imagewriter is a *total botch*, courtesy of Apple.
Still, isn't this a bit drastic?

Second, there is no way to set MS Word 3.0 to believing you wish to
print in "tall adjusted" mode. This is normally an option in Page Setup,
but they've moved it to Print, which means you don't see the horizontal
spacing when editing that you will get when printing with tall adjusted
set. If they are going to get rid of high-quality Imagewriter output,
the only use of an Imagewriter is for Laserwriter drafts, for which tall
adjusted mode is essential.

Still, it looks like a powerful package if they fix the problems.

    Radford Neal

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From: [e-mail] (Chuq Von Rospach)
Subject: Re: Suggestions for Mac Fans (not people :-) Wanted
Date: 15 Mar 87 19:47:35 GMT
Organization: Fictional Reality, uLtd

>Soon, I should hope to have my own psudo-Mac+ w/ 1 meg RAM and a drive/ROM
>upgrade.  Since this will undoubtedly generate A LOT of heat, I am shopping
>for a mac fan.

Both of the Mac's here at Plaidhenge have Kensington fans.  About $75,
and is not only a fan, but a surge suppressor and it moves the power
switch to the front of the machine.  They are pretty quiet, are well
crafted, meld in with the Mac look fine, and definitely lower the
internal temperature of these machines. Highly recommended.
Chuq Von Rospach    [e-mail]                  [I don't read flames]

There is no statute of limitations on stupidity

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From: [e-mail] (Warren Bell)
Subject: Mac SE - compatibility
Date: 15 Mar 87 23:08:11 GMT
Organization: University of Toronto Computing Services

Has anyone experienced any compatibility problems with the SE? Do any
programs which work on the Plus fail in strange ways? (I heard something
about some DA's not working properly due to its new ROMs)
--
----
University of Toronto Computing Services                 Warren Bell
UUCP: {cbosgd,ihnp4,utai,utcsri,utzoo}!utgpu!wbell
Internet: [e-mail]
BITNET: wbell at utoronto, wbell at utorgpu

Disclaimer: the views expressed above are mine alone, and do not in any
way reflect the views of the University of Toronto, nor the views of
University of Toronto Computing Services.

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From: [e-mail] (Tom Lippincott)
Subject: Obscure cursor bug
Date: 16 Mar 87 02:38:33 GMT
Organization: U Chicago Computation Center

The Bug:

I have a bug in a program I'm writing which leaves cursor images lying
around the screen.  This is fine for drawing forests, but it obscures
the intended purpose of the program.

The Symptoms:

The problem occurs when I have a task in the vertical retrace queue,
only when that task calls a drawing command, and apparently only when
the interrupted process is drawing near (or possibly only under) then
cursor. Where the interrupting task is drawing has little or no effect.
It doesn't leave a cursor on every interrupt, but the frequency of the
error increases with both the frequency of the drawing in the
interrupted task and the frequency of the interrupt.  I've only tried
situations where the interrupt either always draws or never draws.  If
the cursor is holding still, and the program repeatedly draws under it,
I can tell when the problem happens because the cursor stops flickering.
 Occasionally (maybe 1/300) the cursor left behind is slightly
disfigured.


The Unsuccessful Attempts:

Hiding the cursor during the interrupt (and restoring it at the end)
makes the cursor flicker, but has no effect on the bug.

I have no doubt that hiding the cursor during the interrupted process
would cure the problem, but this would make things like menu selection
difficult.

The interrupt procedure saves and restores every global variable that I
know of that it changes; in particular, it saves and restores the
grafport, and has a private window of its own to draw into.


The Theory:

First, the main program issues a drawing command.
          Quickdraw realizes that the cursor is over the thing being drawn,
          hides the cursor (hence the cursor flickers when being drawn under)
          by restoring the area from an "under the cursor bitmap",
          and stores the fact that it hid the cursor in some global variable
          (which is unknown to me).

While Quickdraw is performing the actual drawing, the interrupt hits,
issuing a drawing command elsewhere.
          Quickdraw checks whether the cursor is over the thing being drawn,
          finds that it isn't, and clears the variable that says so.
          It completes the command normally.

Next, the VBL interrupt handler calls the cursor drawing routine,
          which restores the area under the cursor (to little or no effect)
          and draws a new one

Quickdraw finishes the initial draw, saves the freshly drawn area into
the "under the cursor" area (with the cursor), and redraws the cursor
          (this time the redrawing has little effect).

Now, the "under the cursor" area is the same as the normal screen, so
          the cursor cannot be erased.  (And the cursor can't flicker any more
          if you're holding the mouse still.)

The deformed cursors would come from Quickdraw continuing to draw over
the cursor after the interrupt.

The Fix:

The fix by this theory would be to save and restore the cursor-hiding
variable during my interrupt.

The Request:

Help!

                                                            --Tom Lippincott
                                                            ..ihnp4!gargoyle!sphinx!fdot

          "Thank you for observing all saftey precautions."

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From: [e-mail] (Ken Mandelberg)
Subject: Mac Printronix driver?
Date: 15 Mar 87 21:29:36 GMT
Organization: Math & Computer Science, Emory University, Atlanta

Is there Mac driver/filter for using a Printronix 600 printer in
graphics mode as a substitute for an imagewriter? I am looking for
something general and transparent, not just a program that understands
MacPaint documents.
--
Ken Mandelberg      |  {akgua,sb1,gatech}!emory!km   USENET
Emory University    |  km@emory                      CSNET,BITNET
Dept of Math and CS |  km.emory@csnet-relay          ARPANET
Atlanta, Ga 30322   |  Phone: [phone]

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From: [e-mail] (danj)
Subject: Map programs?
Date: 16 Mar 87 15:12:26 GMT
Organization: UWisconsin-Madison Academic Comp Center

          I've been requested to ask if anyone knows of or has used any mapping
programs for the Mac that might suit urban planning and/or real estate
applications.  Any leads are appreciated.

danj.

------
dan jatnieks

UUCP :   ...{allegra,ihnp4,seismo}!uwvax!uwmacc!dan
ARPA :   [e-mail]

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From: [e-mail] (Jeff Parke)
Subject: WORD 3.0 draft printing
Date: 16 Mar 87 07:01:36 GMT
Organization: Physio-Control Corp., Seattle, WA

I too have had problems with draft printing with WORD 3.0.  I was using
System 3.2, ImageWriter 2.5, and an Imagewriter II.  Nothing happened on
the printer when draft mode was selected.  Turned out that going to
ImageWriter 2.3 solved the problem.  I noticed another note here about
this - was it also the 2.5 file, I wonder?

{seismo!nike!uw-beaver, ihnp4!allegra!fluke} !tikal!phred!jeffp {Jeff Parke}
Genie  : JEFFP
DELPHI : JEFFPARKE

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From: rs4u#@ANDREW.CMU.EDU (Richard Siegel)
Subject: SE Incompatibilities...
Date: 16 Mar 87 17:29:16 GMT

It's my understanding that programs that use the alternate screen or
sound buffers will not work, because the alternate screen/sound areas no
longer no longer exist.

this is also the case for the Mac II.

Please send lots of insulting mail if I am wrong... :-)

          --Rich

Richard M. Siegel
NASA/Langley Research Center
Mail Stop 231
Hampton, Virginia 23665
[phone]

Arpa: [e-mail] (or) rs4u#@andrew.cmu.edu
uucp: ..seismo!andrew.cmu.edu!rs4u

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From: [e-mail] (Dan Graifer)
Subject: PacTel now an Apple Dealer
Date: 16 Mar 87 21:03:34 GMT
Organization: UCSD Academic Network Operations

Maybe I've missed it before, but PacTel InfoSystems ( the business
marketing arm of the west coast chunk of the AT&T breakup) is now an
Apple Dealer. On page 5 of the Business Section (Part IV) of the today's
L.A. Times there is  a 2/3 page ad for the Mac SE.

Their advertised price seemed a bit high to me: Mac SE, ImageWriterII,
MS Excel & Word, 1 800K & int 20meg drives, 10 diskettes, surge
protector, training, and a one year service contract leases for
$190.41/month for 3 years, plus tax, shipping, and handling charges. At
15% per annum, that's a present value of $5500.

Still, PacTel may have marketing muscle and connections in business that
Apple has lacked in the past.
--
                              Dan Graifer
                              [e-mail]
Disclaimer: Nobody ever listens to me anyways; Why should they start now?

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From: [e-mail] (Marc Hannah)
Subject: Re: mathematical word processing on the mac
Date: 17 Mar 87 00:01:18 GMT
Organization: Stanford University

   When Word 3.0 arrived the first thing I did was look at the equation
formatting. In my opinion, unless you have VERY FEW equations or VERY
SIMPLE equations, it is not acceptable. I tried doing just a few
equations and very quickly got turned off. I'd rather use MACEQN and
paste.
   I am NOT a fan of TeX (except the output quality) but I do think it
currently represents the best way of constructing (and modifying)
equations albeit without simple preview. For me the solution to this
problem would be a DA which can read TeX Math input and produces the
equations...sort of a  split window with one part TEXT (TeX input) the
other part graphics (the  equation). When you are done you merely cut
the equation to the clipboard and paste it into one of these programs
which can have text and graphics on the same line. I find the TeX method
of specifying equations to be easier to use than any of the interactive
tools I have seen so far.

David Gelphman                  BITNET address: DAVEG@SLACVM
Bin #88 SLAC                    ARPANET address:  [e-mail]
Stanford, Calif. 94305          UUCP address: ...psuvax1!daveg%slacvm.bitnet
415-854-3300 x2538
usual disclaimer #432 applies: my employer apologizes for the fact
that I have access to this net.

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From: [e-mail] (Joseph M. Piazza)
Subject: Word 3.0 formulas on a Lisa?
Date: 16 Mar 87 18:12:58 GMT
Organization: SUNY/Buffalo Computer Science

          Anyone know why formulas (integrals in particular) in Word 3.0 don't
work on the Lisa?  Any work around?

Thanks,

          joe piazza

--- Cogito ergo equus sum.

CS Dept.
SUNY at Buffalo 14260
[phone], 3180

UU: ...{rocksvax|decvax}!sunybcs!jmpiazza
CS: jmpiazza@buffalo-cs
BI: jmpiazza@sunybcs

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From: [e-mail] (James Solderitsch)
Subject: fonds and fonts
Date: 16 Mar 87 15:29:36 GMT
Organization: Unisys/Paoli Research Center, Paoli, PA

I've been trying to change the resources in a third party font file. The
font file includes both a fond and font resource.

Inspecting this font shows a basic font id less than 128 which is in the
range reserved to Apple. Also, when this font is installed in my system
file, certain peculiarities occur; e.g. the chooser desk accessory uses
an enlarged version of this font instead of Chicago in its dialog box.
This problem font is also used as the default font when opening a new
document with MacWrite 4.5.

I'm using a Mac+ (upgraded from a 128) with 5.3, 3.2 etc. (latest
official stuff).

Question: is the the font id the culprit here?

I tried changing the fond id and the corresponding font id (128 times
the fond id plus the point size) using resedit but then FontDaMover
barfs when I try and install the modified font in the system file
(something about there were "serious problems" id 3, 0, with only the
Finder button enabled in the alert box).

Obviously I'm doing something wrong. Precisely, what tricks do I
instruct resedit to perform to completely change a font's id where the
font file includes both a font and a fond resource? BTW, I'm a novice
resedit user (as might be apparent from this posting).

Any help appreciated. If similar situations have occurred to you, drop
me a line -- if enough interest, I'll post any findings to the net.

Jim Solderitsch
Unisys/Paoli Research Center
Paoli PA

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From: [e-mail] (Jim Budler)
Subject: Re: PacTel now an Apple Dealer
Date: 17 Mar 87 17:07:05 GMT
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc., Sunnyvale, Ca.

in article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Dan Graifer)
says:
>
> Their advertised price seemed a bit high to me: Mac SE, ImageWriterII, MS Excel

Of course...This is the company that charged $4.00 per month for 25
years for a $20 telephone. And claimed it was a good deal. :-)

Seriously, their price is quite in line with what any value added
computer services dealer would charge for a comparable piece of
equipment. The value added in this case may not be software or anything
like that, but the assurance to a customer that if the Mac croaks,
there'll be another in place operating within 'X' hours.

--
Room for growth:
+==== Jim Budler ==== Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. ==== [phone] ====+
| Compuserve: 72415,1200; Delphi: JIMBUDLER;  Usenet: [e-mail]  |
+=== Disclaimer: My company wouldn't let ME speak for them, would they? ===+

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From: [e-mail] (Clayton M. Elwell)
Subject: Macintosh II Stuff
Date: 17 Mar 87 22:20:19 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University, CIS Dept.

Well, folks, I have good news and I have bad news.  The good news is
that LightspeedC on the Mac II is a wondrous sight to behold.  As a
test, I recompiled the Blob Manager (12,000+ lines of code).  Off of the
(somewhat slow) internal hard disk (Seagate 225N), it took 53 seconds.
Off of a RAMdisk created by Ramstart 1.3, it took 26 seconds.  That is
not a typo.  About 1 module per second.  The general speed of the
machine also has to be seen to be believed.  This is the machine I want
on my desk at home!

The bad news is that out of the set { MacTerminal, MacKermit, UW,
Microphone }, only Microphone runs.  MacKermit bombs immediately,
probably because of SUMEX C's funky relocation scheme.  This is not a
good sign.

More news as it happens....

PS.  Being able to set your own SysBeep() is great fun!.

--
====================
The greatest warriors are the ones                          Clayton Elwell
who fight for peace.                                        [e-mail]
                    --Holly Near                     ...!cbosgd!osu-eddie!elwell
====================

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From: [e-mail] (David Ackerman)
Subject: Omnis3 templates
Date: 18 Mar 87 05:38:52 GMT
Organization: University of California, Davis

     How many of you use Omnis3? Does anyone have any interesting/useful
Omnis templates to share? Please respond via mail. Thanks in advance...

                                  David Ackerman
                         University of California, Davis

         ...!{ucbvax,lll-crg,sdcsvax}!ucdavis!deneb!cccack  (UUCP)
                  ucdavis!deneb![e-mail]  (ARPA)
                                        drackerman@ucdavis  (BITNET)

Disclaimer: The University of California really doesn't GIVE a
            damn about my opinions.

                                            MS-DOS: Just say NO

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: How the keyboard maps to the font?
Date: 17 Mar 87 16:15:06 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley

Is there any way to get a circumflex added to any character other than a
vowel? Specifically, I need to use it over y's (necessary for Welsh).

James

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From: [e-mail] (David Fry)
Subject: Re: Mac II (really SE: A letdown?)
Date: 18 Mar 87 14:20:15 GMT
Organization: Harvard Math Department

Since people seem to know some sanyone have
any idea how much the software will cost?

David Fry                               [e-mail]
Department of Mathematics               [e-mail]
Harvard University                      [e-mail]
Cambridge, MA  02138                              ...!harvard!huma1!fry

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From: [e-mail] (Steve Upp)
Subject: Falcon Flight Simulation for Mac
Date: 18 Mar 87 17:06:57 GMT
Organization: U. Chicago Computation Center

Has anyone on the net heard anything about "Falcon" an F-16 Combat
Simulation program that was supposed to to be available in August 1986?
Now that it's March '87, I'm beginning to wonder?

It was suppossed to simulate:

"         -True to life head-up display
          -Flight characteristics of the real F-16
          -True feel of fly-by-wire
        -Carries true armament of F-16
        -See digitized images of enemy Migs
          -See landscape, plane, and esting to me, if they can really pull all of this off.

The program was being written by Spectrum Holobyte (the same people who
did Gato and Orbiter).

If you have any info, please let me know....

Thanks ahead of time!

>From: Someone who enjoys flying planes from behind a keyboard! :-)
Steve Upp
...!ihnp4!gargoyle!sphinx!supp

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From: [e-mail] (Douglas Schuler)
Subject: Graf3D Queries...
Date: 17 Mar 87 16:14:05 GMT
Organization: Boeing Computer Services ATC, Seattle

I just received the latest MacTutor and there was mention of Graf3D
routines in an article and a sample program written in Pascal.  I have
Aztec C, version H - Commercial package.

I would like the include files that would enable me to use the Graf3D
routines, if somebody would be so kind as to mail them to me...

Also, in general, what would I have to do to set up my own include file
for Graf3D?  I'm trying to ask if there is something magic that I wo N K S  ---

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From: [e-mail] (Steve D. Miller)
Subject: Networking and A/UX
Date: 18 Mar 87 18:03:50 GMT
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742

Could someone in the know tell me who did the networking implementation
for A/UX?

          -Steve

--
Spoken: Steve Miller          ARPA:     [e-mail] Phone: [phone]
CSNet:    [e-mail]           UUCP:     {seismo,allegra}!mimsy!steve
USPS: Computer Science Dept., University of Maryland, College Park, MD 20742

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From: [e-mail] (Fred Huxham)
Subject: Re: X windows for Mac?
Date: 18 Mar 87 20:38:32 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, USA

U.C. Berkeley has ported X-Windows to run under A/UX.

Fred

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: How the keyboard maps to the font?
Date: 17 Mar 87 21:50:59 GMT
Organization: AT&T-IS,mable, but this is frowned upon as it blows away lots and lots
of interface assumptions. It might be desirable, however, for an
application such as a foreign language word processor.

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